Senator Barack Obama treaded onto Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's home turf last night to meet with prominent Democratic donors and feel out those who might prefer the sound of President Obama to President Clinton (as in Hillary, not Bill). Amid intensifying presidential musings by Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama met with George Soros, the liberal billionaire philanthropist, and then some other donors last night at Mr. Soros's offices.
One of the donors who met with Mr. Obama, and who spoke on condition of anonymity because he did not want to offend Mrs. Clinton, said that he and several others had supported Mrs. Clinton's Senate campaigns but were not committed to her as a presidential candidate. "I like Hillary a lot, but I'm also impressed with Obama - his message, the way he connects to people," said the donor, a prominent New York business person. "It's a little too early for Democrats to be certain that Hillary is the strongest bet for 2008. There are a lot of good people interested in running."
Speaking to reporters last night after those meetings and a speech to a charity dinner, Mr. Obama called Mrs. Clinton a friend and ally and said that if he decided to run for president, it would not be based on his assessment of her. "I think she is tough, I think she is disciplined, I think she is smart, and I'm not one of those people who believe she can't win," Mr. Obama said. "I recognize it's fun to set these things up as a contest between the two of us. I would say half my colleagues in the Senate think they're going to be the next president." FUN? Did that jackass actually say "fun?"
Mr. Obama's reconnaissance mission came as Mrs. Clinton was accelerating talks about 2008 not only with New York elected officials, but also with some prominent donors whom she would like to lock in for a possible White House bid. John Catsimatidis, a loyal Clinton donor, said he had recently received a phone call from Mrs. Clinton asking to have dinner before the holidays. He believes she wants to she wants to run for president and is moving to ramp up her Senate fund-raising operation for a White House campaign.
“I think they have a phenomenal political machine set up that’s far superior to any of the other candidates, or theoretical candidates,” Mr. Catsimatidis said. “Now they’re getting ready to put that machine to use.” Last time I checked, a "political machine" was considered a BAD thing; something fraught with corruption and unequal protection under the law. Have the Democrats managed to brainwash people to where they don't realize this? Or have they become so brazen they don't care?
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Mr. Soros, an early supporter, was the host of a fund-raiser during Mr. Obama’s campaign for the Senate in 2004...
Obama recalled Robert F. Kennedy and the War on Poverty and said there was an “empathy deficit” in America that would close only when people imagined themselves in their poorer countrymen’s shoes. How could he "recall" something that happened before he was born?
At the news conference afterward, asked about the fatal shooting by police officers in Queens last month, Mr. Obama said his view was similar to Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s: that the details were still under investigation, but that the 50 shots fired by police seemed “excessive.” Is there some magic number of rounds that police can fire and not have it "seem 'excessive'?"
Obama is a talent-free opportunist, differing only in skin color from Martin O'Malley. The fact that his nose is already stuck firmly between George Soros' ass cheeks ought to be proof of that.
In many ways, I like Obama. He's smart, well-spoken, occasionally makes
sense, which, for a liberal, is worth noting. But he IS a liberal. Indeed,
I think he's way too liberal ever to be elected president.
screw the stereotype that is "liberal"....what has BUSH done? (that
unfortunate republican who i voted for). he's pushed forward into this war
with full belief and the publics belief (which is the ultimate deciding
factor)....but at leaST Hes done it with conviction, if lacking in the
ackowledgement if his own mistakes....How can you say that a fledgling
candidate isn't ready ? in some of the most notorious cases of history, it
is the young kings who live up to their obligtions like none before
them....why not give a fresh open minded face a chance?
Vittoria, I wish you had not brought Bush into this, because my point,
initially, was that Obama seems to be treating his nascent candidacy as
though it's a great joke, and that he has fallen under the sway of George
Soros. The latter, if you do not know his background, promised to spend his
entire fortune to defeat "W" in the last election, if that was necessary.
There are two problems with that statement: (1) he chose to back John
Kerry, whose negatives were all too well-known, and (2) Soros lied about
spending his entire fortune, as evidenced by the fact that he is still
filth rich.
Personally I think this upcomming election is a washout. Billary scares
the hell out of me. I'm not saying that a woman can't do the job, just not
that one. Obama is just another Al Gore... Who else is running...
Edwards.. are you kidding me? Biden? Who's that? The rev Sharpton,
hasn't he gotten the hint yet? OK, for the other side... Brownback?
Wasn't he in Brokeback mountain? Romney? McCain (which one?) I liked the
old one, but who is he now? He's just another John Kerry! Changes his
mind every 3 seconds! Giuliani? Well here might be our best bet. All in
all, I say OTHER! Clinton set us back so far it's rediculous, Bush tried
to answer the slap back that we've been begging to give terrorists for so
long. He did this only to be dealt with the fact that our armed forces are
running thin due to the reduction in forces Clinton brought about. Stuborn
as hell, he refuses to admit that we need to give it up. We fix something,
they blow it up. This could go on forever. You can't help someone that
doesn't want to be helped. The fact is that I live in a state of
confusion. We had a governor that built up the state, got us a surplus
cashflow, increased learning potential in our schools and we elect an idiot
who let Baltimore run down more than it already was. O'Malley SUCKS!
IDIOTS, who voted for him! Now we're facing bills that make no more sence
than Nancy Pelosi (what a ditz!) Maybe Britney should run for office, she
might have more common sence! I think perhaps Oprah should run. She'd
definately win. She'd have the black and woman vote and wouldn't worry
about screwing us out of more tax money like some of these people love to
do. I stillsay vote other this year... or Giuliani. Good luck my fellow
Americans we really need it!
Actually TomB I think Obama's real name is Barry. Personally I am fed up
with the fanaticism over Obama. It is only getting worse.